FórumCategoria: Fórum - Perguntas e RespostasAlteração de Simples Nacional para Lucro Presumido
Daniel Campana da Silva perguntou há 4 anos

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Tenho uma empresa que era do simples até 29/02/2016, fez o comunicado de desenquadramento e passou a tributação para o Lucro presumido, agora não sei como preencher a ECF. coloco a opção 4 no indicador do inicio do período, e a data inicial? como faço coloco 01/01/2016 ou 01/03/2016, se colocar a opção de 01/03 quando recupero a EDC ele dá erro e fica tudo com saldo zero no primeiro trimestre. E se coloco 01/01 o saldo da receita não ira bater com a apuração. O que fazer?
 

4 Respostas
respondeu há 4 anos

esta empresa desenquadrou do simples em 31/7/ e foi para lucro presumido de 01/8 a 31/12.
creio que te ajude.
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Daniel Campana da Silva respondeu há 4 anos

Você criou o registro K na mão, porque quando importo direto da ECD ele puxa zerado os saldo do trimestre que ficou quebrado.

respondeu há 4 anos

Daniel, trabalho em uma software house e este arquivo enviado é gerado pelo nosso sistema. Era um caso de um cliente.
O arquivo enviado foi para vc ter um noção.

Daniel Campana da Silva respondeu há 4 anos

Valdeci obrigado pela ajuda, acabei montado o bloco k, e importando.

Márcia Souza do Carmo respondeu há 4 anos

Olá!
Daniel,
Em situação de desenquadramento do Simples Nacional deve selecionar o indicador do inicio do período nº 4 inicio de obrigatoriedade de entrega no curso do ano calendário. Se possui contabilidade o ideal seria enviar duas ECDs, a primeira, contemplando o período do Simples Nacional com encerramento em 29/02/2016 (embora não seja obrigado a entrega, convém enviar assim, mantem o livro diário digital completo do período). A segunda ECD deveria ser gerada com encerramentos trimestrais 31/03, 30/06, 30/09 e 31/12 alem, do encerramento anual de 01 até 12/2016. Feito isso, recupera esta ECD na ECF e os arquivos são validados com êxito.
Não deve recuperar a primeira ECD, pois, os saldos e demais registros servirão no preenchimento da DEFIS, declaração fiscal adotada para o período em que a empresa ainda era Optante Pelo Simples Nacional.
Manual ECF página 63 trata da indicação do período.
Espero tê-lo auxiliado.
Sucesso!
Att.
Márcia
 
 
 

Márcia Souza do Carmo respondeu há 4 anos

Olá! Nalma, sim, é possível, inclusive, as empresas de grande porte devido ao elevado volume de dados geram 12 ECDs no período. Abraço. Márcia

nalma lucia rodrigues da rocha respondeu há 4 anos

E é possível enviar duas ECDs da mesma empresa referente ao mesmo ano?

Daniel Campana da Silva respondeu há 4 anos

Obrigado Márcia.